Greetings Brethren,


There was once a man that caused great controversy because God the Father of all humankind sent him. So man tried to kill him and destroy what became written. Nothing from God can be destroyed. Nor will humankind ever come to know anything without God.

Peace and Love,

Carl Patton writing for the FreedomJournal October 7, 2002 in the year of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.






In the name of Jehovah God, Master of the universe, Ruler of the earth.


The dialogue continues between FreedomJournal and Truth. The question now before Truth is the question of mathematics. Mathematics is often noted as an accurate science.  However, is this true? Can we obtain accuracy in Social Science questions? What are the parallels of mathematics and Social Science?


"Our beloved FreedomJournal we are grateful for your introduction and for setting the stage for our next discussion. We clearly have to define mathematics and realize how it functions. "David Hume noted that  mixed mathematics is equivalent to what would today be called "applied mathematics," or the application of mathematics or mathematical principles to the physical world and experience, as, for instance, in astronomy, surveying, or the

calculation of probabilities."


As we pursue the effects of reasoning and realize the operational tools of cause and effect we will look at how applied mathematics functions. Can Social Science be set in the same or most of the same circumstances? Hume argues that every part of applied mathematics proceeds upon certain suppositions. Thus, certain laws are established by nature in her operations. Abstract reasoning are employed, either to assist experience in the discovery of these laws, or to determine their influence in particular instances, when it depends upon any precise degree of distance and quantity."


"So Truth you believe that Hume is correct in his conclusions that reasoning, and experience

assist in the discovery of laws that regulate mathematics. Well can we pose these same

circumstances to other disciplines for example Social Science?"


“My beloved and trusted Brother. Yes, Hume does bring some clarity toward understanding the way mathematics functions. Thus we can use much of what he has said and apply it to Social Science. The Social Sciences proceeds upon the interactions of humankind to people and things. Certain laws compel nature also there are human and spiritual laws that compel

man. Here we also see the inclusion of experience, and observations as a motivating factor in

human reasoning. These principles assist man to discover Truth. Also, as the principles of cause and effect are seen the different things that influence our conclusions are also realized.


Meanwhile we look toward the parallels of mathematical science and Social Science there is a

need to first introduce math. Yes what is mathematics? Why do the multitudes view math as

precise when the mathematicians question the precision and exactness of mathematics?"


Alfred Alder in an essay titled "Mathematics and Creativity" notes the following:

"Math is pure logic, the language of science. At one level math deals with the nature of logic

itself. At another level math deals with numbers the basic units of mathematics, and perhaps of all human thought."


Alder goes on to argue that math forces skepticism, on its students as a 1st requirement.

Therefore math is a field where much that seems true is in fact false. It is then concluded

that math is a field where very little is known, Adler then declares that this is true of every

domain of human thought.


However, as Truth-Seekers we beg to differ. We do not deny that math suffers from many

instances of disproof. Nevertheless, in the realm of Social Science impacted by the ultimate Truth of God much is known.


The reasoning of mathematicians like many Physical sciences operates from a particular frame work of analysis. Thus all facts, statements etc. are not believed until they have been proved by a series of steps that have been universally accepted.


Still, what of things that can't be proved? Also who designed the steps to be used to note proof or dis proof? Can one prove most things without God?


We are certain that some will view that last statement with confusion. Because some believe that very little can be proved about God. So can one use a manner of disproof to prove something? We will question this later but for now we will look at math and dis-proof.


"Gordel's Theorem proves that there exist meaningful mathematical statements that are neither provable nor disprovable, now or ever neither provable nor disprovable. Not simply because human thought or knowledge is insufficiently advanced but because the very nature of logic renders them incapable of resolution, no matter how long the human race survives or how wise it becomes."


Is the previous theorem by Gordel entirely true? With God at the center all things are possible for the believers. So will many things once unknown in math and Science become known by the Spiritual Scientist? However, we must take a further look at math and how it impacts on our questions toward obtaining a methodology for Truth.


Cont. Part 12: Is Math Created or Discovered?



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