The following is a scriptural response to several sincere questions
posed by one of the faithful readers of the FreedomJournal.
Greetings, Beloved Brother,
Many thanks for your reply. I cannot help being endlessly curious
about the question of Jesus' divinity, since after all it must be one of the
most central issues of the Christian faith...
Question from Sister Lois:..But bear with me - there are so many verses
of scripture that have made me stop & think about this, & I’d like to
hear your opinion on some of them, if you have time. ... Like this verse I’ve
quoted before, from Isaiah 9:6 - "For to us a child is born, to us a son
is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace.”...
For it seems to me that this scripture refers to Jesus, yet it calls him Mighty
God and Everlasting Father. Why is this?
Isaiah 9: 6 this verse and the following verse note the prediction
of the coming of Christ. A yoke is used to compare a government (see Matthew
11: 29-30). This government would be upon his shoulders.
Wonderful is defined here as a miracle being that Christ was born of
a virgin. Counsellor is defined as to advise; reflectively to deliberate or
resolve. It is for sure that Christ was the greatest teacher on the earth.
Mighty God will not confuse us when we remember that God is the family name of
the Deity and that Christ was a mighty member of that family.
Father is noted in a figurative and remote application. Jesus was
not a literal Father. But his great and unending care of the children of his
own divine Father would entitle him to the name. The original word for prince
is defined as a head person. In the King James version it is noted as captain,
chief, general, master and others. This great person would offer peace to his
Therefore Christ would offer to his subjects that kind of peace that
would be for their good, even if they might have to receive it in connection
with unpleasant experiences with the world.
Question Sister Lois: Also, in the New Testament, Thomas addresses
Jesus as 'God' (John 20:28). Would Jesus not surely have rebuked Thomas for
blasphemy or paganism or whatever if this were not true?
John 20: 28. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my
Thomas refers to two people here. Jesus as Lord and God as God. Also
you have to remember that the reverence for Jesus often took on the attitude
that He was God. But we have to keep in mind that the Son is the Son and God is
The following are companion scriptures that relate to your central
question. I preface this with the following statement. The recent confusion
over this question has revealed a Devilish and Foolish element among us. We are
grateful that you are sincere and are seeking the Truth of the Bible just like
us. However we will not entertain further questions from those that make
threats and especially those that don't use their names. Also we feel that we
should not respond to those who have a one-track mind and hide behind
John 1: 18. “No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten
Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
No man with fleshly eyes has ever seen God, for that would have
caused his death (Exodus 33: 20). Yet God wished to give man some kind of
glimpse at Him that he could endure, hence the Son of God came among man in the
form of flesh, who then declared, "He that hath seen me hath seen the
Father (John 14: 9).
Philippians 2: 6. Who, being in the form of God thought it not
robbery to be equal with God:
Christ was willing to give up being equal in form with the Father,
and condescend to becoming even lower than the angels, as He could suffer and
die as a man.
Colossians 2: 9. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
Godhead means deity. Godhead means the state of being God. Bodily
refers to the form in which Jesus appeared while on earth, so that the entire
fulness or virtue of the Deity was represented in Him. This is why Jesus said
to Philip, they that hath seen me hath seen the Father (John 14: 9). Not that
Jesus was the Father personally but he was a full representation of God in
Pay close attention to this scripture commentary. Here we see that
if we get caught up in how Jesus looked we will also get caught up in how God
looks. WE SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT PLACING RACIAL IMAGES ON GOD OR JESUS.
LET THE SCRIPTURE BEAR OUT THIS AND NOT US IN THE FLESH.
You are correct in that there is much in the Bible on this subject.
In fact one can find scripture on both sides that seem to support Jesus as God
and Jesus as the Son of God. But I believe that the problem resides in how one
views the Trinity. This fact is not clear in the Bible. Thus, we are still
growing in the gist of this Truth. Here is another very simple statement. The
Son of God and the Holy Spirit are extensions of Jehovah God. However they are
also separate in that they carry on functions exclusive to them but all of
their powers etc. extend from the Creator the Father.
Thus, the worship of Christ Jesus is not like the worship of the
Father. For example we pray to God the Father in the name of Jesus. We do not
pray to Jesus. Although I imagine that the people that believe that Jesus is
God pray to Jesus.
You must pray about this question and ask God to show you the way.
Meanwhile we sincerely believe in our statements that Jesus is not God. Thank
you for your cordial tone and sincere interest in Truth.
Peace and Love,
Carl Patton, FreedomJournal
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